Brooke Lively, Founder and CEO of Cathcap, and Pam Meissner, COO and CFO, dive into the complexities of law firm ownership. They discuss the critical challenges in financial management and leadership, emphasizing the dangers of prioritizing revenue over profitability. Topics include strategies for hiring the right team, identifying toxic employees, and overcoming burnout. They also highlight the importance of mindset shifts for sustainable success, promoting a culture of collaboration, transparency, and self-care to enhance firm performance.