Pablo Chavez, a Fellow at CNAS and former VP at Google Cloud, joins Kevin Xu, founder of Interconnected, to delve into the complex world of AI governance and digital sovereignty. They discuss how lawmakers can differentiate between good and bad AI and explore China’s Great Firewall as a lesson for digital sovereignty. The conversation highlights the geopolitical competition shaping national AI strategies and the promise and peril of open-source technologies, revealing how these trends may redefine the future of global tech.