In this engaging conversation, Oz Fritz, a sound engineer and Leary enthusiast, shares his deep insights into Timothy Leary's work, especially 'Terra II.' He reflects on Leary's tumultuous life and the universal quest for freedom. The duo explores the idea of writing as a magical act and the influential connections to Aleister Crowley. They also touch on humor as a coping mechanism amidst personal struggles and discuss the fascinating implications of time dilation on consciousness, intertwining science and psychedelia in a captivating way.