Oshan Jarow, a staff writer at Vox’s Future Perfect, dives deep into the intriguing debate surrounding AI and consciousness. He discusses why some scientists believe AI might soon achieve awareness, while others argue it’s impossible. The conversation explores ethical dilemmas of AI potentially feeling pain and parallels between AI and animal welfare. Jarow raises crucial questions about how we measure consciousness and the implications of developing machines that could genuinely experience emotions.

Oshan Jarow, writer and podcaster at Vox Media's Future Perfect, discusses the intersection of economics and contemplative sciences. They explore the psychedelic renaissance, the concept of a general theory of spirituality, and challenges in influencing policy.