Orson Scott Card, renowned author of Ender's Game, chats about his journey in writing and the impact of being blacklisted in Hollywood. He dives into the essence of storytelling, arguing that all humans possess a form of religion, and critiques the shortcomings of The Force in Star Wars. The conversation touches on the evolution of sci-fi, the pitfalls of modern narratives overshadowed by politics, and the importance of strong writing in film. Card shares insights on character depth and the creative process, making it a thought-provoking discussion.