Guests Barbie (connected to the Barbie movie), Oppenheimer (connected to the Oppenheimer movie), and NT Wright (connected to the book 'Surprised by Hope - NT Wright') have a fascinating conversation about spoiling media, authenticity, Gnosticism, Christianity, trans-identity, contradictions in Christianity, hate, physical changes, a trip to Reno Tahoe, and the transformative power of films featuring Barbie and Oppenheimer, influenced by the works of Stanley Kubrick.

In this episode, Oppenheimer, a figure involved in the development of the atomic bomb, discusses the psychological motivations behind the bomb's creation and its impact. The hosts also explore the movie 'Oppenheimer' and compare Christopher Nolan's storytelling techniques to that of a magician. They discuss an interesting book, a humorous reality TV show called 'Jury Duty', and reflect on the creation of the TV series 'The Righteous Gemstones'. They express disappointment with the increasing raunchiness in a comedy series and discuss their surprising enjoyment of the live-action version of 'The Little Mermaid'.