Brigid Schulte, an author and journalist, teams up with freelance journalist Oliver Balch to unpack the pitfalls of working on vacation. They discuss how holiday work is not just a personal choice but a symptom of poor management practices. The conversation highlights the irony of overwork in cultures that glorify constant availability, and how some executives struggle to truly disconnect. They also reflect on global vacation policies, contrasting countries with robust time-off systems against those like the U.S., emphasizing the need for systemic change to promote better work-life balance.