Nora Ammann, cofounder and CEO of PIBBSS Research, discusses the fascinating intersection of biology, social systems, and AI. She highlights the importance of interdisciplinary approaches to AI safety and alignment, emphasizing the complexities of ensuring AI systems reflect human intentions. Nora also explores innovative perspectives on intelligence, advocating for AI models that incorporate insights from diverse fields. The conversation delves into the philosophical underpinnings of causality in complex systems, and the unpredictable challenges of navigating the AI revolution.