Simone Collins, a dedicated pronatalist, and Nomiya Iqbal, BBC Washington correspondent, dive into the world of increasing birth rates. They discuss the Collins family's ambitious goal of having 10 children to combat demographic decline. Simone shares her insights on the societal implications of falling fertility rates, while Nomiya provides context on the cultural and political landscape surrounding pronatalism. The conversation also touches on ethical concerns regarding reproductive technologies and how these movements shape family dynamics in America.