Nitin Pillai, Director of Engineering at Dataminr, and Brian Skvarch, Director of Data Engineering at Bloomscape, discuss their paths into the tech industry and leadership roles. They share insights on the skills and mindset required to succeed, challenges in the field, and the importance of self-learning and practical experience. They also touch on non-traditional paths to data science, transitioning into management roles while maintaining a connection to coding, and the importance of leadership support and experimentation in data engineering and ML.