Nina van Doren, a co-curator at IDFA DocLab, and Caspar Sonnen, its founder and lead curator, discuss the upcoming theme, 'Off the Internet,' which critiques online culture while showcasing immersive installations. They introduce the concept of 'Perception Art,' blending fiction and documentary elements. Notable works include a nostalgic web-walking game, an interactive hip-hop album experience, and a VR piece that animates scanned specimens. The conversation also highlights the importance of reclaiming personal digital spaces in an age of social media.