Juliette Kayyem, an expert in crisis management from Harvard, and Nina Keck, a senior reporter covering the aftermath of Vermont's floods, delve into the alarming state of disaster preparedness in the U.S. They explore the shocking inadequacies exposed by recent events and discuss Vermont's challenges with heavy rains and climate change. The conversation highlights the importance of inter-state collaboration and legislative changes needed for better community resilience, pushing for proactive over reactive disaster management.