Nikki Hutley

Justin Wolfers, an economist and public policy professor, discusses Australia’s economic success, attributing high living standards to strong institutions. He contrasts Australia's inclusive institutions with Argentina's extractive ones. Nikki Hutley, a macroeconomist and Climate Council councillor, highlights issues of inequality and climate inaction. Both guests emphasize the need to defend these institutions and advocate for a cooperative mindset over zero-sum thinking. Despite challenges, they express hope for Australia's future and the potential to export its model.