Niki Savva, an insightful columnist, and Mark Kenny, a seasoned political professor, dive into the complexities of U.S. foreign policy and its impact on the Middle East, especially in the wake of Trump's controversial actions. They discuss how cuts to international aid during Trump's administration have shifted global dynamics, elevating China's role in the Pacific. The conversation also touches on the upcoming 2025 Australian federal election, linking international events to domestic political strategies and economic sentiments.