In this podcast, Ponch talks with John Turner, PhD and Nigel Thurlow about the upcoming Flow System Playbook. They discuss the importance of applying the methods and techniques of the Flow System to unique contexts and how their diverse backgrounds have shaped the playbook. They delve into the Triple Helix of Flow and its role in achieving flow through complexity thinking, distributive leadership, and team science. The discussion also covers the significance of organizational coaching, distributed leadership, and the wealth of knowledge contained within the playbook.