Nicole Nixon, a reporter at CapRadio, dives into the intriguing dynamics of California's recall election against Governor Gavin Newsom, revealing the shifts in public sentiment surrounding his pandemic response. Meanwhile, Ryan Lucas, NPR's justice correspondent, unpacks the drama of the FBI raid on Rudy Giuliani's apartment, exploring the legal ramifications of his dealings with Ukraine. The conversation highlights the implications of these political events for broader national trends, making for a compelling discussion of current affairs.