Data engineering expert Nicolay Gerold and software-defined assets expert Jon Erich Kemi Warghed discuss selecting the right tools, implementing data governance, and the concept of software-defined assets. They highlight the importance of data governance, open source tooling, agile data platforms, and software-defined assets like Dagster for simplifying data orchestration and creating business value.

Nicolay Gerold, an expert in artificial intelligence, shares his journey in developing large language models (LLMs) while discussing the challenges of generating reliable outputs. He emphasizes the importance of data quality over model adjustments, addressing the barriers to effective LLM use. The conversation also highlights the need for human oversight in AI applications, especially regarding security and customer interactions. Nicolay delves into monitoring, testing challenges, and the evolving landscape of AI startups, offering insights into making LLMs more predictable and reliable.