Nicolas Chaillan, the former chief software officer for the U.S. Air Force and founder of Ask Sage, discusses the rise of the controversial Chinese AI app DeepSeek. He explores its potential as a wake-up call for U.S. tech and military sectors. The conversation dives into the complexities of AI training, national security risks, and the disparity in AI advancements between the U.S. and China. Chaillan emphasizes the importance of ethical standards in AI and highlights how AI is reshaping industries and workforce dynamics.

Nicolas Chaillan, former Chief Software Officer for the US Air Force, discusses building the first US govt's zero trust implementation, deploying Kubernetes in jets and space systems, and the future of AI in security. He shares the importance of cross-team collaboration, the challenges of bringing new tech to the federal government, and the biggest mistakes entrepreneurs make.