Nicholas Gruen

Nicholas Gruen, an economist focused on public policy, and Rory Sutherland, a behavioral economist and advertising executive, dive into the chaos of modern politics. They discuss how extreme voices overshadow moderate debate and critique the inadequacies of GDP as an economic measure. The duo emphasizes the importance of local communities in managing differences, explores how education and housing have become status bottlenecks, and reflect on the unpredictable solutions that can arise from randomness. They urge a shift from adversarial arguments to collaborative problem-solving.