In this engaging discussion, Chris Such, an expert in reading and education, and Neil Almond, a seasoned educator in mathematics, tackle the innovative concept of 'phonics for maths.' They dive into the parallels between phonics in literacy and foundational skills in mathematics, advocating for structured teaching methods similar to phonics. They explore essential math competencies like spatial reasoning and the need for systematic assessments. This conversation is packed with insights that could reshape how educators approach math instruction in primary education!