Nathalie Cabrol is an astrobiologist at the SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – True Classic Tees: https://trueclassictees.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get free trial – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil EPISODE LINKS: Nathalie’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/shasta721 SETI’s Website: https://seti.org In Her Orbit (article): https://nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/22/magazine/voyages-nathalie-cabrol-searching-mars-life-on-earth.html PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:47) – Working in extreme environments (11:26) – Water and life on Mars (19:31) – Origin of life (37:00) – Complexity (40:37) – AI (49:23) – Extinction (57:06) – Fermi Paradox (1:10:48) – SETI research (1:13:39) – Diving in volcanic lakes (1:32:57) – Surviving an earthquake on a volcano (1:43:37) – Resilience of life (1:51:31) – Life below the surface of Mars (2:00:26) – Depression (2:04:08) – Mortality

In this intriguing discussion, Bill Diamond, CEO of the SETI Institute, along with astrobiologist Nathalie Cabrol, radio astronomer Wael Farah, and astronomer Simon Steel, reflect on 40 years of searching for extraterrestrial life. They delve into the advancements in space exploration and the challenges of detecting alien signals. The team also highlights the importance of the Drake Equation and explores the philosophical implications of life beyond Earth. As they celebrate a significant milestone, they spark curiosity about what the next 40 years might uncover.

Nathalie Cabrol is an expert in astrobiology and planetary science, as well as the director of the Carl Sagan Center at SETI. In this engaging conversation, they delve into the exciting possibility of discovering life on Mars thanks to NASA's Perseverance rover. They discuss how recent findings challenge our understanding of life’s origins, both on Earth and elsewhere. Cabrol also explores the philosophical implications of defining life and the concept of a 'shadow biosphere' that hints at undiscovered forms right here on our planet.