Nate Burba, CEO of Refractor Games and innovator in virtual reality, joins the discussion to unpack some wild theories. They dive into the bizarre notion that Donald Trump may have died in 1989 and unravel the complexities of conspiracy theories surrounding his identity. The conversation also touches on spiritual ideas from Gnosticism and the hidden narratives within Christianity. With entertaining anecdotes about game development and society's readiness for virtual reality, Burba brings a unique perspective to unraveling modern mysteries.