Tina Nguyen, a technology reporter at The Verge, and Natasha Tiku, a tech culture reporter for The Washington Post, dive into the implications of President Trump's executive order on AI regulation. They discuss how this order empowers tech giants at the expense of state efforts to protect citizens. Tina highlights state-level laws bringing transparency, while Natasha profiles David Sachs, the White House AI czar, revealing his influence on pro-industry policies. The conversation raises questions about the balance of power between states and federal authorities in navigating AI's future.