Natalia Dace, a BBC reporter, shares her harrowing interview with Afina Kadzinova, a Ukrainian refugee celebrating Christmas under Russian occupation. They discuss the contrast between personal loss and the resilience of communities, reflecting on memorial events marking the 20th anniversary of the Indian Ocean tsunami, which claimed over 220,000 lives. The conversation also touches on ongoing global conflicts and the emotional journey of those affected, showcasing stories of hope amid tragedy and the human spirit's capacity to endure.
