Irina Jurenka, Research Lead at Google DeepMind, and Muktha Ananda, Engineering Leader in Learning and Education at Google, share their insights on developing LearnLM, a large language model tailored for education. They delve into the intricacies of fine-tuning AI to enhance pedagogical effectiveness, explaining how they measure learner outcomes and the challenges of creating an engaging AI tutor. The conversation highlights the delicate balance between emotional engagement and learning efficiency, showcasing a multidisciplinary approach to innovation in educational technology.