In this engaging discussion, Mob Man, the elusive creator of the infamous Sub7 malware, shares his journey from anonymity to acknowledgment as a key figure in cybersecurity. He delves into the ethical dilemmas of coding, revealing the fine line between innovation and criminality. The conversation also explores the complexities of digital identity, as multiple individuals with the same name emerge to clarify claims. With humor, they tackle programming languages and the legacy of Sub7, sparking debates about authorship and the nature of digital personas.