MJ Franklin, an editor at the New York Times Book Review, and Traci Thomas, host of The Stacks podcast, dive into Kaveh Akbar's poignant debut novel, 'Martyr!'. They explore the protagonist Cyrus's journey through personal loss and his existential struggle with martyrdom. The conversation touches on narrative techniques, the emotional depth of relationships, and the complexities of recovery, showcasing how Cyrus navigates joy and sorrow. Their insights intertwine personal narratives with a broader commentary on memory and identity.