Dr Fae Garland and Dr Mitchell Travis discuss their book 'Intersex Embodiment: Legal Frameworks Beyond Identity and Disorder.' They delve into the challenges of conducting research and disrupting medical narratives around intersex. The importance of language, terminology, and public discourse on intersex embodiment and legal systems is explored. They also touch on the intersection of disability, embodiment, and legal frameworks in research. This podcast questions gender binaries and highlights the role of researchers and lawyers in promoting acceptance and human rights.