Today on the flagship podcast of over-the-air interactive television:David Pierce is joined by Alex Cranz and Janko Roettgers to talk about ATSC 3.0, the new standard for over-the-air broadcasting.The future of TV is up in the airMitchell Clark joins the show to discuss his next endeavor.Mitchell's gear listDan Seifert explains which iPad you should buy and how to make the iPad work better for writing by hand. The best iPad to buy in 2023 Yes, paper-feel screen protectors for the iPad are good This Apple Pencil clone provides 80 percent of the experience for a quarter of the price Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

02:30 - The Verge's David Pierce talks with tech reporter Mitchell Clark about what it took to get service from Project Genesis and they conclude a FOIA may be the only way to get the facts.I became a Dish influencer to get a 5G NFT20:21- David talks with senior policy reporter Makena Kelly about US lawmakers suddenly discovering that VPNs are a thing that exists and that they aren't very honest about their business practices.Lawmakers push FTC to clean up the VPN industry41:50 - And finally, reviews editor Allison Johnson and news reporter Jon Porter go deep on Nothing Phone — our review, the hype leading up to its launch, and the reality of it now that we got our hands on it. Nothing Phone 1 Review Hot and Hyped: Inside the strange launch of the Nothing Phone 1 Email us at vergecast@theverge.com, we'd love to hear from you.Call our Vergecast Hotline! 866-VERGE11 (866-837-4311) Find us on Twitter:Mitchell Clark is @strawberrywellAlex Cranz is @alexhcranz   Makena Kelly is @kellymakenaJon Porter is @JonPortyAllison Johnson is @allisonjo1David Pierce is @pierce Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices