Guest Mitch Hurwitz, creator of Arrested Development, joins the hosts to discuss TV production challenges, creative decisions, and the influence of other creators. They also touch on Amazon's use of drones, USO tours in Iraq, and the secret operations in the Kremlin and Pentagon. The podcast ends with an epic D&D session battling a golden golem and exploring glowing holes.

The ultra-hydrated Mitch Hurwitz (writer, producer, creator of Arrested Development) rolls on through, teaching us a variety of skills that range from recycling Post-it notes to writing comedy. Welcome to '4 Skeletons on a Podcast,' otherwise known as SmartLess. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of SmartLess ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

Dan Harmon, Jeff Bryan Davis, Erin McGathy, Mitch Hurwitz, and Kumail Nanjiani discuss their experiences at SXSW, the news of Fred Phelps, controversial figures, and mysterious disappearances. They also explore their time in Austin, question the consequences of wasting people's time, and discuss their experiences with movie premieres and self-doubt. Additionally, they touch on charity fundraising, marketing discussions, and playing a D&D session after a hiatus.