Psychologist Mimi White joins Sam and Aidan to discuss her recently published survey on the role of climbing in our lives. They explore the meaning of climbing, its impact on mental health, and the fine line between passion and obsession. They also delve into the connection between climbing and sports psychology, the limitations of focusing on climbing, and the role of climbing in personal growth. The hosts reflect on the emotional dependency they have on climbing, their day-to-day goals and energy balance, and the interdependence of brain and physicalities in climbing.