Mike Reid, a former NFL defensive lineman turned Grammy-winning songwriter, teams up with Joe Henry, a celebrated producer known for his atmospheric Americana sound. They dive into the roots of their friendship formed at a songwriting retreat, discuss the discipline of daily writing, and share their unique creative processes. Joe reflects on how real-life events inspire lyrics, while Mike analyzes the emotional depth of his iconic song 'I Can't Make You Love Me.' Together, they explore the balance between music and meaning, culminating in their new album 'Life & Times.'