Mike Munro, a former Labour Chief of Staff, and Nick Leggett, CEO of Infrastructure NZ, tackle pressing issues affecting New Zealand. They discuss the record losses faced by The Warehouse and the need for a strategic consumer comeback. The conversation shifts to the government's controversial truancy measures, arguing for a holistic approach rather than punitive actions. They also dive into the spiraling costs of the Dunedin Hospital project, revealing systemic challenges in public service management and the significance of youth councils in governance.