Shane Phillips, a housing policy expert from UCLA, is joined by Mike Lenz, a former public policy professor at USC. They dive deep into the complexities of inclusionary zoning (IZ) in Los Angeles, challenging conventional beliefs about who bears its costs. Rather than developers, they argue all renters share the burden. Insights from a development simulator reveal potential impacts on housing production. The duo also reflects on the nuances of research data and the need for localized policy changes to truly address the affordable housing crisis.