Zac Bookman, CEO of OpenGov, transforms how government budgets are visualized, while Mike Kasperzak, a former mayor, shares invaluable insights on integrating tech in local governance. They discuss the tension between technology and government, highlighting how software can enhance public transparency. The duo emphasizes the need for centralized tech leadership and community engagement, as well as the challenges of bringing less tech-savvy citizens into the fold. Ultimately, they explore how these innovations could redefine our connection with civic services.