Joby Martin, founder of Church of Love, and Mike Housholder, senior pastor at Lutheran Church of Hope, share their insights on high-conversion church growth. They discuss breaking misconceptions about church success and emphasize authentic evangelism that nurtures genuine community connections. The duo explores how to communicate effectively with both insiders and outsiders, fostering an inclusive environment. Innovative strategies to attract new believers while maintaining spiritual depth take center stage, highlighting the importance of unity and collaboration in ministry.