Patrick Butler, Guardian social policy editor, and Mick Scarlett, Co-CEO of the charity Fab, dive into the controversial welfare reform proposals by the Labour government. They discuss the potential £5bn cuts to disability benefits and universal credit, exploring their devastating impacts on vulnerable populations, particularly young people. Personal anecdotes reveal the daily struggles of those living with disabilities and the inadequacies of support systems, urging for a society that prioritizes accessibility and compassion over punitive measures.