Helen Lewis, a journalist from The Atlantic, and Michelle Goldberg, a columnist, dive into the complexities of feminism and trans rights. They discuss the term 'TERF,' its polarizing nature, and J.K. Rowling’s concerns about the silencing of women. The duo explores tensions between feminist ideals and the trans rights movement, emphasizing the considerations around women's spaces and the implications of self-identification policies. They also touch on the rise in youth referrals for gender transitions and the urgent need for research and dialogue in these heated conversations.
