Gavin hosts Dr. Michael Savage, a prominent conservative commentator and author, to delve into his "Borders, Language, Culture" philosophy. They engage in a candid discussion about their contrasting political journeys, touching on healthcare, immigration narratives, and systemic inequities. Savage shares insights on California's alternative medicine landscape and the state's homelessness crisis, advocating for mental health reforms. The duo also passionately debates climate change and urban rebuilding strategies in Los Angeles, shedding light on the complexities facing modern society.