Financial expert Katie Martin and UK business correspondent Michael O’Dwyer discuss the new UK listing rules meant to attract innovative companies. They debate if the rules will boost London's status as a listing hub. Topics include challenges facing the London Stock Exchange, impacts of the rule revisions, and financial success of professional services firms.

Lord Waheed Alli, a prominent Labour donor recently caught in controversy, discusses how his donations may cloud the government's image. Meanwhile, Michael O'Dwyer, chief business correspondent, warns about the ramifications of the UK government's tax policies on private investment. The conversation delves into the ethical dilemmas surrounding political gifts, the implications of Sue Gray's high salary amidst pay cuts, and the challenges posed to Labour's electoral strategy. The panel blends serious political analysis with light banter about quirky investment ideas.