Michael Joyce, CEO of the Human-Centric Cybersecurity Partnership and PhD candidate, and David Shipley, CEO of Beauceron Security, delve into the intricacies of cybersecurity training. They discuss the decay of vigilance after training, the impact of awareness programs, and the difference between clicking and reporting phishing attempts. Insights include optimal training frequencies, the importance of ongoing feedback, and caution against sensational claims about training efficacy. Their research promotes a blend of technical and behavioral approaches to enhance cybersecurity culture.