Joining the discussion are Michael Igorov, a DeFi whiz behind YieldBasis and Curve, and Laura Shin, a prominent crypto journalist and host of Unchained. They dive deep into the massive demand for YieldBasis's token, exploring innovative features like real yield options and community-focused economics. Michael also discusses adapting to Bitcoin's volatility and addressing safety in their rollout. Meanwhile, Laura shares her journey with creator tokens, examining monetization strategies and community feedback, making for a vibrant dialogue that interweaves finance and creativity.