In a captivating discussion, Michael Greenbaum, a New York Times writer and author of 'Empire of the Elite', explores the cultural legacy of Condé Nast. He examines how the media giant once defined American taste, fashion, and celebrity, while now grappling with social media's rise. Greenbaum discusses Anna Wintour's dynamic influence, the evolving landscape of celebrity culture, and Condé Nast's complex ties with figures like Donald Trump. The conversation also highlights the dual nature of elite culture, revealing its blend of cruelty and generosity.