In this engaging discussion, Dr. Michael Graziano, author of *Rethinking Consciousness*, explores groundbreaking concepts in neuroscience. He delves into Attention Schema Theory, which offers insights into how we perceive consciousness and attentiveness. Graziano links evolutionary psychology with consciousness, revealing how our brains process social interactions and project awareness onto entities around us. The conversation also touches on the complexities of consciousness, its neural underpinnings, and its implications in the realm of artificial intelligence.