Michael Clemens, an expert on migration economics from George Mason University, delves into the potential impacts of a second Trump presidency on immigration. He discusses the current role of over 12 million unauthorized immigrants in the economy and the ramifications of mass deportation. The conversation highlights how Trump's rhetoric often scapegoats immigrants during tough economic times and reflects on historical precedents for immigration policy. Clemens stresses the need for reform to create legal work opportunities and balanced migration management.

Michael Clemens, a migration economics expert from George Mason University, discusses the potential implications of a second Trump presidency on U.S. immigration policies. He explores concerns about mass deportation and its detrimental effects on the economy, emphasizing the reliance on both authorized and unauthorized workers. The conversation highlights the historical context of immigration rhetoric and its influence on voter sentiment. Clemens argues for comprehensive immigration reform rather than punitive measures, envisioning significant economic impacts by 2028.