In this engaging conversation, Michael Brenner from Data4Change, Sarah Slobin of Reuters, and Jon Schwabish from the Urban Institute delve into the evolution of data visualization tools and their impact on storytelling. They discuss the transition from basic to advanced technologies, emphasizing the importance of emotional engagement in data communication. The trio also highlights how accessible design tools empower nonprofits and the challenges in learning coding languages, advocating for resourcefulness in the ever-evolving field of data viz.