Meta Orion, a company aiming to blend augmented reality glasses with regular eyewear, shares their insights on the challenges they face in the competitive AR market. Jony Ive, the iconic designer known for his innovative tech creations, discusses the minimalist design philosophy behind his firm's new logo. The conversation delves into Apple's strategy for a more affordable Vision Pro headset, weighing resolution against interactivity. Tensions between technology and user experience present a lively debate on the future of AR and design.