We’re re-releasing our most-listened-to episode ever—and for good reason.

In this powerful conversation, Dr. Finlayson-Fife joins Carol Lynn Pearson, Stephen Carter, and Dan Wotherspoon to talk about the real purpose of marriage—and why the challenges we face in it are what drives our personal and spiritual growth.

They discuss how marriage can stretch us in the best ways—pushing us to confront ourselves, to move through conflict instead of away from it, and to build something real and lasting in the process.

In the episode, you'll learn more about:

Why conflict is often a doorway to intimacy
How monogamy pressures us to evolve
What Mormon culture gets wrong—and right—about marriage
Why creating a strong marriage is a spiritual process

If you’ve ever wondered why marriage feels so hard sometimes, and whether it’s supposed to be easier—this episode will meet you right where you are.

*In the episode,Carol Lynn Pearson's poem "The Steward" is referenced
*On August 12th Dr. Finlayson-Fife will be launching the pre-order link for her new book! JOIN OUR MAILING LIST for details!

Melissa Kirsch

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