Steve Goreham, an expert on climate policies, critiques the failed renewable energy initiatives that he claims are economically detrimental. He argues that many policies are built on faulty science. Meanwhile, Melissa Giller discusses the significance of the Dead Sea Scrolls, highlighting their miraculous discovery and ongoing exhibition in the U.S. The conversation intertwines themes of archaeology, history, and the pressing issues within climate change discussions, making for a compelling exchange on both cultural and environmental fronts.