In this insightful conversation, journalist and New York Times bestselling author Meghan O'Rourke shares her journey through chronic illness. She discusses her book, *The Invisible Kingdom*, and highlights the often unseen struggles of those with 'invisible' conditions. O'Rourke delves into the importance of validating diagnoses, the stigma surrounding chronic illness, and the emotional toll of navigating the healthcare system. She also emphasizes the need for compassionate care and community support for individuals facing these challenges.

Poet Meghan O'Rourke and host Paul Muldoon discuss John Ashbery's 'Tapestry' and Meghan's 'Apartment Living.' They explore Ashbery's intricate imagery and emphasis on language over definitive meaning. The podcast also delves into sensory symbolism, community storytelling, poetic inspiration from masters, and the evolution of literature.

Meghan O'Rourke, a journalist, poet, and bestselling author, discusses her journey with chronic illness, exploring themes of healing and resilience. She shares her experiences with misdiagnoses and the connection between mind and body. The conversation highlights the significance of empathy in healthcare and redefines what healing means amidst chronic struggles. Meghan also emphasizes the complexities of symptoms like brain fog, the importance of self-advocacy, and how societal pressures can shape one's illness experience.